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Nats Bids
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 9:48 am
by Creationist127
So, obviously, SciOly participation is going down this year. This is lame for everyone, especially the people in states that might have too little participation for a state tournament. Some silver lining, though, could be the redistribution of these lost bids to other states. I've been wondering...
- How are Nats bids usually distributed, i.e. how do they decide which states get two, one, or none? (Obviously, yes, number of teams, but is the specific threshold known?)
- When are they usually decided, and when do you think they'll be decided this year? (Or are they already known?)
- Is the distribution usually publicly available, and if so, where?
- Any predictions as to specific changes? (Unless, of course, bids are already known.)
(If there's a better place to post this, point me there!)
Re: Nats Bids
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 10:12 am
by Unome
- Bids are allocated per-division. All states that accept a bid get a bid. The remainder up to 60 go to the largest states by number of teams in order.
- Typically by the end of March, but there have been occasions where a state has declined a bid as late as the end of April where another state got it (e.g. 2011 DC -> MN Div C).
- The national membership map and national tournament team numbers are generally posted around the same time in late March/early April.
- It's possible that some states will fall to low enough participation that they start declining bids. I don't know exactly how membership is this year though. I wouldn't expect any changes to the bid allocation structure.
Re: Nats Bids
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 10:59 am
by Creationist127
Unome wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 10:12 am
- Bids are allocated per-division. All states that accept a bid get a bid. The remainder up to 60 go to the largest states by number of teams in order.
- Typically by the end of March, but there have been occasions where a state has declined a bid as late as the end of April where another state got it (e.g. 2011 DC -> MN Div C).
- The national membership map and national tournament team numbers are generally posted around the same time in late March/early April.
- It's possible that some states will fall to low enough participation that they start declining bids. I don't know exactly how membership is this year though. I wouldn't expect any changes to the bid allocation structure.
Interesting. I didn't know that state team numbers weren't known until that late--although it makes sense, since state tournaments aren't until then. Thanks!
Re: Nats Bids
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 4:20 pm
by Unome
Creationist127 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 10:59 am
Unome wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 10:12 am
- Bids are allocated per-division. All states that accept a bid get a bid. The remainder up to 60 go to the largest states by number of teams in order.
- Typically by the end of March, but there have been occasions where a state has declined a bid as late as the end of April where another state got it (e.g. 2011 DC -> MN Div C).
- The national membership map and national tournament team numbers are generally posted around the same time in late March/early April.
- It's possible that some states will fall to low enough participation that they start declining bids. I don't know exactly how membership is this year though. I wouldn't expect any changes to the bid allocation structure.
Interesting. I didn't know that state team numbers weren't known until that late--although it makes sense, since state tournaments aren't until then. Thanks!
Yeah, I think the official deadline for states to submit their registration numbers is sometime in March.
States sending two teams to nationals?
Posted: March 28th, 2021, 1:46 pm
by jjwkim
Anyone know where you can find the list of states sending two teams to nats this year?? Or when/where it will be released? Anxious state runner-up student here. CROSSING MY FINGERS THEY LET VIRGINIA DOUBLE UP.
State director said April 1st but hoping it will be sooner plus idk where to find them. ty.
Re: States sending two teams to nationals?
Posted: March 29th, 2021, 3:03 pm
by pb5754
jjwkim wrote: ↑March 28th, 2021, 1:46 pm
Anyone know where you can find the list of states sending two teams to nats this year?? Or when/where it will be released? Anxious state runner-up student here. CROSSING MY FINGERS THEY LET VIRGINIA DOUBLE UP.
State director said April 1st but hoping it will be sooner plus idk where to find them. ty.
should be released on 4/1 on soinc.org
judging from registration numbers, i think va is pretty likely to get a second div b bid, but don't quote me on that
Re: States sending two teams to nationals?
Posted: April 2nd, 2021, 5:36 am
by Blesson
jjwkim wrote: ↑March 28th, 2021, 1:46 pm
Anyone know where you can find the list of states sending two teams to nats this year?? Or when/where it will be released? Anxious state runner-up student here. CROSSING MY FINGERS THEY LET VIRGINIA DOUBLE UP.
State director said April 1st but hoping it will be sooner plus idk where to find them. ty.
https://www.soinc.org/sites/default/fil ... umbers.pdf
They were just released today.
Re: States sending two teams to nationals?
Posted: April 2nd, 2021, 4:26 pm
by Umaroth
jjwkim wrote: ↑March 28th, 2021, 1:46 pm
Anyone know where you can find the list of states sending two teams to nats this year?? Or when/where it will be released? Anxious state runner-up student here. CROSSING MY FINGERS THEY LET VIRGINIA DOUBLE UP.
State director said April 1st but hoping it will be sooner plus idk where to find them. ty.
Looks like you got your wish, congratulations on making nats!
Re: Nats Bids
Posted: April 7th, 2021, 10:22 am
by jjwkim
thank you!