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Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 16th, 2017, 10:02 am
by Burtrell017
Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 16th, 2017, 10:23 am
by windu34
Burtrell017 wrote:Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
Specifies wheels for a reason. Length is 60
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 16th, 2017, 5:54 pm
by Cammaster
Burtrell017 wrote:Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
I believe that all parts of your electric vehicle must be in the 30 by 60. But the point of getting the bonus is trying to get the cans closer together so you get more points, and if you have a narrower car you can accomplish that, I personally see no reason a car should be 30 cm wide. Also the length is 60 cm.
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 16th, 2017, 6:45 pm
by 4Head
Cammaster wrote:Burtrell017 wrote:Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
I believe that all parts of your electric vehicle must be in the 30 by 60. But the point of getting the bonus is trying to get the cans closer together so you get more points, and if you have a narrower car you can accomplish that, I personally see no reason a car should be 30 cm wide. Also the length is 60 cm.
windu replied and I believe his answer is correct. The rules explicitly state that the wheelbase needs to fit in those dimensions, not everything else.
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 16th, 2017, 8:07 pm
by windu34
Cammaster wrote:Burtrell017 wrote:Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
I believe that all parts of your electric vehicle must be in the 30 by 60. But the point of getting the bonus is trying to get the cans closer together so you get more points, and if you have a narrower car you can accomplish that, I personally see no reason a car should be 30 cm wide. Also the length is 60 cm.
If you are
not going for the bonus, maximizing wheel base width is actually beneficial
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 17th, 2017, 5:46 am
by Cammaster
windu34 wrote:Cammaster wrote:Burtrell017 wrote:Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
I believe that all parts of your electric vehicle must be in the 30 by 60. But the point of getting the bonus is trying to get the cans closer together so you get more points, and if you have a narrower car you can accomplish that, I personally see no reason a car should be 30 cm wide. Also the length is 60 cm.
If you are
not going for the bonus, maximizing wheel base width is actually beneficial
Of course, but the bonus will probably be a great factor between 1st and 20th.
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 17th, 2017, 5:48 am
by Cammaster
4Head wrote:Cammaster wrote:Burtrell017 wrote:Hello there is a rule that requires the tires and treads to fit within 30 cm x 60 cm. Is it ok if the axles are wider than 30 cm if the wheels are within 30 cm. Is the length supposed to be 30 cm or is it supposed to 60 cm.
I believe that all parts of your electric vehicle must be in the 30 by 60. But the point of getting the bonus is trying to get the cans closer together so you get more points, and if you have a narrower car you can accomplish that, I personally see no reason a car should be 30 cm wide. Also the length is 60 cm.
windu replied and I believe his answer is correct. The rules explicitly state that the wheelbase needs to fit in those dimensions, not everything else.
I just re-looked at the rules, and I can see it being interpreted that way. Good loophole.
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: March 17th, 2017, 12:12 pm
by andrewwski
Wouldn't say it's a loophole. I've seen a lot of EV/Scrambler/Mousetrap/Gravity Vehicle designs over the years that have parts of the vehicle that extend outside of the wheelbase.
If the intent of the rules was to restrict the vehicles to be smaller than that size, it would say so explicitly (probably something like "the entire vehicle must fit in a box x cm by y cm by z cm").
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: May 2nd, 2017, 8:19 am
by fn2187
When the rules state that "wheel/thread in the ready-to-run configuration must fit in 30 x 60 cm space," does that mean the ends of the wheel must fit in that box or just the wheel axles?
Re: Question about rules regarding length and width design of the electric vehicle?
Posted: May 2nd, 2017, 11:54 am
by windu34
fn2187 wrote:When the rules state that "wheel/thread in the ready-to-run configuration must fit in 30 x 60 cm space," does that mean the ends of the wheel must fit in that box or just the wheel axles?
Based on your quote, the entirety of the wheels has to fit