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Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 1:08 pm
by bernard
Galahad wrote: March 8th, 2020, 1:00 pm
Unome wrote: March 8th, 2020, 12:56 pm
Galahad wrote: March 8th, 2020, 12:43 pm

Yeah, but would SoCal's team amount actually count? Like would California even have two bids if SoCal's teams don't add to NorCal's #?
Yes, solidly so.
Would SoCal teams then be allowed to compete in NorCal's tournament if they count towards the amount of bids that the NorCal tournament gets?
While we cannot provide an answer to this question, it seems very unlikely considering just the logistics of handling approximately twice as many teams.

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 2:02 pm
by SentientJello
Judging from our current inadequate national response, the contagiousness and relatively high case fatality rate (for a respiratory disease) of COVID-19, and the projected socioeconomic impact of the virus, I'm predicting the cancellation of Nationals, with the slim possibility of rescheduling.

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 2:07 pm
by Cornstalk
Would the bids from states who have cancelled their tournaments be allocated to other states?

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 2:08 pm
by SentientJello
Cornstalk wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:07 pm Would the bids from states who have cancelled their tournaments be allocated to other states?
I think states who cancelled their tournaments simply select who they believe is the best team from their ranks, although whether Nationals will still go on is in question.

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 2:22 pm
by EwwPhysics
SentientJello wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:08 pm
Cornstalk wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:07 pm Would the bids from states who have cancelled their tournaments be allocated to other states?
I think states who cancelled their tournaments simply select who they believe is the best team from their ranks, although whether Nationals will still go on is in question.
Hmmm it would definitely be controversial and sketchy if states picked the team(s) they thought was best, especially since it would give a disadvantage to teams who either didn't attend invitationals or didn't stack for invies and/or regs.

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 2:52 pm
by Galahad
EwwPhysics wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:22 pm
SentientJello wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:08 pm
Cornstalk wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:07 pm Would the bids from states who have cancelled their tournaments be allocated to other states?
I think states who cancelled their tournaments simply select who they believe is the best team from their ranks, although whether Nationals will still go on is in question.
Hmmm it would definitely be controversial and sketchy if states picked the team(s) they thought was best, especially since it would give a disadvantage to teams who either didn't attend invitationals or didn't stack for invies and/or regs.
New York forfeited their bids, idk if SoCal is going to do the same

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 2:57 pm
by Name
Galahad wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:52 pm

New York forfeited their bids, idk if SoCal is going to do the same
There's no way they can fairly give SoCal bids while not giving NY bids.

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 3:06 pm
by SilverBreeze
Name wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:57 pm
Galahad wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:52 pm

New York forfeited their bids, idk if SoCal is going to do the same
There's no way they can fairly give SoCal bids while not giving NY bids.
I think it would depend on whether the state board tells soinc that they give up their bids or whether soinc takes them away, but I agree that if soinc takes bids away from one state it would have to for the other.

Subideal solution: send the teams that won States the year before? It's at least objective, because the only other fair way I can think of is a lottery...

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 3:09 pm
by sciolyperson1
SilverBreeze wrote: March 8th, 2020, 3:06 pm
Name wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:57 pm
Galahad wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:52 pm

New York forfeited their bids, idk if SoCal is going to do the same
There's no way they can fairly give SoCal bids while not giving NY bids.
I think it would depend on whether the state board tells soinc that they give up their bids or whether soinc takes them away, but I agree that if soinc takes bids away from one state it would have to for the other.

Subideal solution: send the teams that won States the year before? It's at least objective, because the only other fair way I can think of is a lottery...
Neither will happen, its not fair to teams who got 2nd or anything else. (even if its troy lol)

Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University

Posted: March 8th, 2020, 3:26 pm
by Godspeed
SilverBreeze wrote: March 8th, 2020, 3:06 pm
Name wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:57 pm
Galahad wrote: March 8th, 2020, 2:52 pm

New York forfeited their bids, idk if SoCal is going to do the same
There's no way they can fairly give SoCal bids while not giving NY bids.
I think it would depend on whether the state board tells soinc that they give up their bids or whether soinc takes them away, but I agree that if soinc takes bids away from one state it would have to for the other.

Subideal solution: send the teams that won States the year before? It's at least objective, because the only other fair way I can think of is a lottery...
The idea seems good for division C, but for division B, there are some teams that aren't as good as they were last year, and some that have improved. I speak from a school hat has improved.