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Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 1:48 pm
by henceagrin36
Just for clarification, are Arctiidae and Arctiinae the same? Audubon goes by Arctiidae, but I've been on bugguide.net and the website says Arctiinae.
[img]http://www.alexanderwild.com/Insects/Insect-Orders/Fabulous-Flies/i-qwm6fLV/2/XL/Cecidomyid-XL.jpg[/img]photocreds to http://www.alexanderwild.com

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 2:22 pm
by Tiktaalik
I'm thinking Hymenoptera.
It looks like a braconid, but Braconidae isn't on the list, so I'll go with Cynipidae.
It says Arctiidae on the list. Plus, -dae taxons are usually families, while -nae taxons are usually subfamilies, e.g. Hominidae and Homininae.

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 2:31 pm
by henceagrin36
Tiktaalik wrote:
I'm thinking Hymenoptera.
It looks like a braconid, but Braconidae isn't on the list, so I'll go with Cynipidae.
It says Arctiidae on the list. Plus, -dae taxons are usually families, while -nae taxons are usually subfamilies, e.g. Hominidae and Homininae.
Nope sorry. I should probably say it's macro photography, so be wary of its actual size.

I was thinking that too. Like on http://bugguide.net/node/view/7993, it says that the family of Lycomorpha pholus is Erebidae and the subfamily is Arctiinae. Then again, Erebidae is a fairly new family, so Audubon probably wouldn't have the update. I guess we're sticking with the old stuff for Entomology.

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 3:37 pm
by balsa
diptera cecidomyiidae

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 5:54 pm
by Tiktaalik
henceagrin36 wrote:
Tiktaalik wrote:
I'm thinking Hymenoptera.
It looks like a braconid, but Braconidae isn't on the list, so I'll go with Cynipidae.
It says Arctiidae on the list. Plus, -dae taxons are usually families, while -nae taxons are usually subfamilies, e.g. Hominidae and Homininae.
Nope sorry. I should probably say it's macro photography, so be wary of its actual size.

I was thinking that too. Like on http://bugguide.net/node/view/7993, it says that the family of Lycomorpha pholus is Erebidae and the subfamily is Arctiinae. Then again, Erebidae is a fairly new order, so Audubon probably wouldn't have the update. I guess we're sticking with the old stuff for Entomology.
Ah. I'm thinking Balsa has got it right.

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 6:18 pm
by henceagrin36
balsa wrote:
diptera cecidomyiidae
Yes that's right, except it wasn't on the list. =___= whoops. That was a mistake on my behalf. Sorry about that.

In exchange, it's your turn now. :)

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 10:52 pm
by balsa
lets have a bizarre one :)
[img]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5142/5749630859_5cda498b36_z.jpg[/img]
name the order and family. think of a defining feature of a family, but magnified into this.

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 10th, 2013, 10:55 pm
by henceagrin36
Coleoptera Circulionidae? A defining feature would be the prominent snout or rostrum.

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 11th, 2013, 5:09 pm
by Tiktaalik
a giraffe weevil (family Curculionidae, order Coleoptera). I'd recognize that anywhere, but they're only found in Madagascar, so I really don't think that would be on any sci o test.

Re: Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

Posted: September 12th, 2013, 4:58 pm
by balsa
Tiktaalik wrote:
a giraffe weevil (family Curculionidae, order Coleoptera). I'd recognize that anywhere, but they're only found in Madagascar, so I really don't think that would be on any sci o test.
correct. the rules dont say just US insects though right...?