Entomology B/C ID/Question Marathon

[henceagrin36]

Just for clarification, are Arctiidae and Arctiinae the same? Audubon goes by Arctiidae, but I've been on bugguide.net and the website says Arctiinae.

Anyways, next one. ID, order and family. (Click to Show Hidden Text)

[img]http://www.alexanderwild.com/Insects/Insect-Orders/Fabulous-Flies/i-qwm6fLV/2/XL/Cecidomyid-XL.jpg[/img]photocreds to http://www.alexanderwild.com

[Tiktaalik]

Order (Click to Show Hidden Text)

I'm thinking Hymenoptera.

Family (Click to Show Hidden Text)

It looks like a braconid, but Braconidae isn't on the list, so I'll go with Cynipidae.

It says Arctiidae on the list. Plus, -dae taxons are usually families, while -nae taxons are usually subfamilies, e.g. Hominidae and Homininae.

[henceagrin36]

Order (Click to Show Hidden Text)

I'm thinking Hymenoptera.

Family (Click to Show Hidden Text)

It looks like a braconid, but Braconidae isn't on the list, so I'll go with Cynipidae.

It says Arctiidae on the list. Plus, -dae taxons are usually families, while -nae taxons are usually subfamilies, e.g. Hominidae and Homininae.

Nope sorry. I should probably say it's macro photography, so be wary of its actual size.

I was thinking that too. Like on http://bugguide.net/node/view/7993, it says that the family of Lycomorpha pholus is Erebidae and the subfamily is Arctiinae. Then again, Erebidae is a fairly new family, so Audubon probably wouldn't have the update. I guess we're sticking with the old stuff for Entomology.

[balsa]

i think (Click to Show Hidden Text)

diptera cecidomyiidae

[Tiktaalik]

Order (Click to Show Hidden Text)

I'm thinking Hymenoptera.

Family (Click to Show Hidden Text)

It looks like a braconid, but Braconidae isn't on the list, so I'll go with Cynipidae.

It says Arctiidae on the list. Plus, -dae taxons are usually families, while -nae taxons are usually subfamilies, e.g. Hominidae and Homininae.

Nope sorry. I should probably say it's macro photography, so be wary of its actual size.

I was thinking that too. Like on http://bugguide.net/node/view/7993, it says that the family of Lycomorpha pholus is Erebidae and the subfamily is Arctiinae. Then again, Erebidae is a fairly new order, so Audubon probably wouldn't have the update. I guess we're sticking with the old stuff for Entomology.

Ah. I'm thinking Balsa has got it right.

[henceagrin36]

i think (Click to Show Hidden Text)

diptera cecidomyiidae

Yes that's right, except it wasn't on the list. =___= whoops. That was a mistake on my behalf. Sorry about that.

In exchange, it's your turn now.

[balsa]

lets have a bizarre one

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name the order and family. think of a defining feature of a family, but magnified into this.

[henceagrin36]

I suppose (Click to Show Hidden Text)

Coleoptera Circulionidae? A defining feature would be the prominent snout or rostrum.

[Tiktaalik]

Well, it's... (Click to Show Hidden Text)

a giraffe weevil (family Curculionidae, order Coleoptera). I'd recognize that anywhere, but they're only found in Madagascar, so I really don't think that would be on any sci o test.

[balsa]

Well, it's... (Click to Show Hidden Text)

a giraffe weevil (family Curculionidae, order Coleoptera). I'd recognize that anywhere, but they're only found in Madagascar, so I really don't think that would be on any sci o test.

correct. the rules dont say just US insects though right...?