I don't remember the test a lot but I don't think so as it was a WI State test. What is a good way to distinguish between types of fibers with a compound microscope (when given only one strand of each fiber)? When we tried it, the only thing we could tell was the weave pattern.geminicross wrote:By any chance did your test have to do with a dog being abducted?For the past Regional and State Competition, we've had to ID strands of hair in plastic bags with no microscopes. Is this just a faulty set-up or is there a way we can ID dog, cat, human hair just by looking at it (or with a hand lens)?
My parter and i had to just rely on the length and color. We ended up placing 5th though.
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I honestly think that's the best thing to go on. (Of course there are tons of people on this site with more experience than me.)EpicFailure wrote:I don't remember the test a lot but I don't think so as it was a WI State test. What is a good way to distinguish between types of fibers with a compound microscope (when given only one strand of each fiber)? When we tried it, the only thing we could tell was the weave pattern.geminicross wrote:By any chance did your test have to do with a dog being abducted?For the past Regional and State Competition, we've had to ID strands of hair in plastic bags with no microscopes. Is this just a faulty set-up or is there a way we can ID dog, cat, human hair just by looking at it (or with a hand lens)?
My parter and i had to just rely on the length and color. We ended up placing 5th though.
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17 protons.Cheese_Muffin_Man wrote:can someone tell me the difference between zinc and aluminum?
The flow chart and tables say that one will react quickly with HCl while the other is delayed. I can't tell you wha that looks like in practice because I don't have these samples, but I'd try it at least once if you can.
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thanks!Skink wrote:17 protons.Cheese_Muffin_Man wrote:can someone tell me the difference between zinc and aluminum?
The flow chart and tables say that one will react quickly with HCl while the other is delayed. I can't tell you wha that looks like in practice because I don't have these samples, but I'd try it at least once if you can.
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Yeah, we tried this one so many times at practice (the 6th graders...they never get used to it).Cheese_Muffin_Man wrote:thanks!Skink wrote:17 protons.Cheese_Muffin_Man wrote:can someone tell me the difference between zinc and aluminum?
The flow chart and tables say that one will react quickly with HCl while the other is delayed. I can't tell you wha that looks like in practice because I don't have these samples, but I'd try it at least once if you can.
For aluminum, there is definitely a delay between contact and reaction. You have to wait like a whole minute to about 2 minutes before something happens. When it does start to react, there will be a slight fizz followed up by a pretty violent bubbling that lasts for about 10-20 seconds.
Zinc, on the other hand, will react upon contact with HCl by fizzing at a realtively constant magnitude. It won't be anything very violent, just some moderate fizzing.
Also, there may be some confusion between magnesium and zinc. While zinc has a moderate fizz on contact, magnesium will practically evaporate on contact and bubble violently if a piece is dropped into a fair amount of HCl. You'll see what I mean if you ever get to try it.
Hope that helps.

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The best approach is NOT to rule out things (ie "Test for Gypsum"/"Test for Calcium Carbonate") unless you already have a good guess as to what something is, but the best approach is to simply follow the flow chart, which is page 2 of that link. If you have a hunch you know what it is, you can skip steps.
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Has anyone tested Ascorbic Acid and got a pH other than 2? Same with Alka-Seltzer. Has anyone gotten a pH other than 6 for that?