Mission Possible C

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Re: Mission Possible C

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Do we get points for completing a task that is not listed in the rules?
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terence.tan wrote:Do we get points for completing a task that is not listed in the rules?
Points are earned only as specified in the rules. Other tasks are typically referred to as non-scorable tasks for that reason, although if I remember correctly they must still be listed on your Action Sequence List.
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Does anyone know if pre-lit candles are legal this year in mission possible.
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jacob-goatman wrote:Does anyone know if pre-lit candles are legal this year in mission possible.
They say that "uncontrolled" flames are illegal so that is open to interpretation...
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ScottMaurer19 wrote:
jacob-goatman wrote:Does anyone know if pre-lit candles are legal this year in mission possible.
They say that "uncontrolled" flames are illegal so that is open to interpretation...
Is 1600 possible? That would require perfect tasks, a chemical timer going to nearly the absolute maximum possible (~80 seconds) and a device around 20 cm on each side. My effective maximum calculated score, based on a 30x40x40 box, is 1550 (with a literal perfect max timer of 90 seconds, and the maximum target time).
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Unome wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
jacob-goatman wrote:Does anyone know if pre-lit candles are legal this year in mission possible.
They say that "uncontrolled" flames are illegal so that is open to interpretation...
Is 1600 possible? That would require perfect tasks, a chemical timer going to nearly the absolute maximum possible (~80 seconds) and a device around 20 cm on each side. My effective maximum calculated score, based on a 30x40x40 box, is 1550 (with a literal perfect max timer of 90 seconds, and the maximum target time).
Check the amount of time the timer can go ;)
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ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote: They say that "uncontrolled" flames are illegal so that is open to interpretation...
Is 1600 possible? That would require perfect tasks, a chemical timer going to nearly the absolute maximum possible (~80 seconds) and a device around 20 cm on each side. My effective maximum calculated score, based on a 30x40x40 box, is 1550 (with a literal perfect max timer of 90 seconds, and the maximum target time).
Check the amount of time the timer can go ;)
Darn it, messed up on 2 points per second up to the target time.

For the benefit of others:
100 for perfect ASL
50 points for setup
350 for Start and End tasks
600 for all 12 tasks
100 battery bonus
180 max for a 90-second chemical timer (theoretical - 160 is probably the effective maximum, with the time needed to complete tasks)
240 max for target time

Adds up to 1620 without size bonus - with a good size bonus, top devices could reasonably reach 1700, though that would be stretching it a little (for everything to go that well).
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Unome wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
Unome wrote: Is 1600 possible? That would require perfect tasks, a chemical timer going to nearly the absolute maximum possible (~80 seconds) and a device around 20 cm on each side. My effective maximum calculated score, based on a 30x40x40 box, is 1550 (with a literal perfect max timer of 90 seconds, and the maximum target time).
Check the amount of time the timer can go ;)
Darn it, messed up on 2 points per second up to the target time.

For the benefit of others:
100 for perfect ASL
50 points for setup
350 for Start and End tasks
600 for all 12 tasks
100 battery bonus
180 max for a 90-second chemical timer (theoretical - 160 is probably the effective maximum, with the time needed to complete tasks)
240 max for target time

Adds up to 1620 without size bonus - with a good size bonus, top devices could reasonably reach 1700, though that would be stretching it a little (for everything to go that well).
I got 1670 with an estimate of 15 sec for 12 transfers plus starting and finishing then the chemical timer starting. I also assumed a 40x40x40cm device.
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Heli: 2/1/7 
Herp: 1/4/4
Mission: 1/1/6
Rocks: 1/1/1
Eco: 6/3/9

2019 (r/s/n):
Fossils: 1/1/1
GLM: 1/1/1
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A note on maximum scoring: don't forget we get 2 points for each second of the chemical timer and 1 point off for each second over the target. That means there are points that can gained by intentionally going over the target if the chemical timer is what extends the run.
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Re: Mission Possible C

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RJohnson wrote:A note on maximum scoring: don't forget we get 2 points for each second of the chemical timer and 1 point off for each second over the target. That means there are points that can gained by intentionally going over the target if the chemical timer is what extends the run.
I have a funny feeling that this potential loophole will be clarified into oblivion.
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