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Also, is there anyway to see flight/wright stuff times for past regionals/state tournaments?

Depending on your region and state, they may send out score statistics for each event, including Flight. Some invitationals do that too. MIT recently hosted an invitational that saw 9 of the top 12 schools from last year's nationals attend, along with a plethora of other schools that made nationals. 3 of the top 6 Wright Stuff scorers at nationals last year (including the #1, Marquette University) were there as well. They happened to release their event scores, which can be found on their website. The pdf is also linked below for convenience. In summary, the top time was ~2:42, which was achieved by two teams (one was tiered), and 3 more teams scored above 2:20. 4 more scored near or above 2:00. The results seem pretty weak for such a stacked invitational, indicating that the venue was probably subpar.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... DYVyZj4w91

Banana2020 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 2:06 pm

randomdogonapc wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 12:11 pm Recently, I competed at the West Liberty-Salem invite in Ohio. Because I am not sure if it is allowed to post the full results, I will just say the highlights for flight. The #1 flight time was a 2:46, and this should be the current best in state, considering that most teams in Ohio were there. I must say, the rumors of a 4 minute flight time were scaring me, and these more tangible numbers are a huge relief to me. Oh, by the way, this was Div B.

Any idea what the ceiling height there was? I know teams were most definitely over 3 minutes at Mentor and Kenston because of the relatively high ceilings. I do have a feeling that Tower Heights has the ability to get higher times than they're showing right now.

Ceiling height was 28ft.

Frost0125 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 2:24 pm I know this may be a difficult question to answer, but I was wondering what flight times I should be aiming for for regionals? I'm from John T. Hoggard in NC in the Wilmington region. I've been in Scioly for a while, but this is my first year doing a build event. I have what I think to be a fairly well-built Freedom Flights plane, but I haven't gotten the chance to fly it yet, due to lack of gym space.

Also, is there anyway to see flight/wright stuff times for past regionals/state tournaments?

1) In NC, I bet you can get away with a 1:30-2:00 flight and still win(based off of results from invitationals I've attended). Not sure how competitive Wilmington is, though. I guess ask other schools or other NC people?
2) Yep. Go to Duosmium, and look up "histogram", instead of a tournament name. You will see a list of all released tournament results supporting histograms, and they will show flight times.

bjt4888,
I'm happy to hear that your tournament was run so well. Thank you for doing that

AstronomyGuy, a friend that went to MIT told me that the flying venue was 28'. I think there must've been air currents, but judging from pictures it was quite a nice flying site. Odd that a invitational as competitive as MIT would yield such weak results, but from what I hear, Scrambler wasn't too impressive, either. Perhaps teams are simply not as competitive this year?

FF Kit Question

Hi!
I'm finishing up a build for a Freedom Flight plane, and I was confused on one of the steps, and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.

In the manual there is a step called Motor Stick Reinforcement, where you use a kevlar thread and a balsa truss stick. The only problem is I have no idea which piece of wood in the kit is the truss, as it isn't labeled anywhere. If anyone knows how to complete this step, help would be greatly appreciated

Frost0125 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 6:13 pm FF Kit Question

Hi!
I'm finishing up a build for a Freedom Flight plane, and I was confused on one of the steps, and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.

In the manual there is a step called Motor Stick Reinforcement, where you use a kevlar thread and a balsa truss stick. The only problem is I have no idea which piece of wood in the kit is the truss, as it isn't labeled anywhere. If anyone knows how to complete this step, help would be greatly appreciated

Update on this lol, I found the truss posts labeled, I think I'm just sleep deprieved

pumptato-cat wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 4:42 pm

Frost0125 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 2:24 pm I know this may be a difficult question to answer, but I was wondering what flight times I should be aiming for for regionals? I'm from John T. Hoggard in NC in the Wilmington region. I've been in Scioly for a while, but this is my first year doing a build event. I have what I think to be a fairly well-built Freedom Flights plane, but I haven't gotten the chance to fly it yet, due to lack of gym space.

Also, is there anyway to see flight/wright stuff times for past regionals/state tournaments?

1) In NC, I bet you can get away with a 1:30-2:00 flight and still win(based off of results from invitationals I've attended). Not sure how competitive Wilmington is, though. I guess ask other schools or other NC people?
2) Yep. Go to Duosmium, and look up "histogram", instead of a tournament name. You will see a list of all released tournament results supporting histograms, and they will show flight times.

bjt4888,
I'm happy to hear that your tournament was run so well. Thank you for doing that

AstronomyGuy, a friend that went to MIT told me that the flying venue was 28'. I think there must've been air currents, but judging from pictures it was quite a nice flying site. Odd that a invitational as competitive as MIT would yield such weak results, but from what I hear, Scrambler wasn't too impressive, either. Perhaps teams are simply not as competitive this year?

Hoggard? I'm from Isaac Bear Varsity lol. Are you on JTH Varsity? We can PM
Winning Wilmington Wright Stuff/Flight times have always been somewhat low, around 1:30 to 2:00 minutes, because of the giant display board hanging from Trask ceiling. If you do manage to get to a gym, I would definitely recommend trying to get flights that will either 1. consistently circle around the display or 2. fly below the display. For context, our best time in Trask is around 2:30 and averaging at around 2:15.

BobaTeaTastesGood wrote: ↑February 27th, 2023, 9:17 pm Hoggard? I'm from Isaac Bear Varsity lol. Are you on JTH Varsity? We can PM
Winning Wilmington Wright Stuff/Flight times have always been somewhat low, around 1:30 to 2:00 minutes, because of the giant display board hanging from Trask ceiling. If you do manage to get to a gym, I would definitely recommend trying to get flights that will either 1. consistently circle around the display or 2. fly below the display. For context, our best time in Trask is around 2:30 and averaging at around 2:15.

Do you mind sharing the ceiling height?

Hi! So, I’ve been waiting to get the materials for my balsa prop, and I was looking at pigtail thrust bearings/Harlan prop hangers. What’s the advantage of this particular hanger? I know that the Ikara hanger only works with their special bead, but compared to other bearings, the pigtail is used far more frequently. Also, How are you supposed to take the prop out of a pigtail bearing? Also, J&H sell their own bearings that were designed by Liem Khou Phing. Should I buy these bearings or attempt to make my own? Just some questions that I had. Thanks!

randomdogonapc wrote: ↑March 1st, 2023, 10:03 am Hi! So, I’ve been waiting to get the materials for my balsa prop, and I was looking at pigtail thrust bearings/Harlan prop hangers. What’s the advantage of this particular hanger? I know that the Ikara hanger only works with their special bead, but compared to other bearings, the pigtail is used far more frequently. Also, How are you supposed to take the prop out of a pigtail bearing? Also, J&H sell their own bearings that were designed by Liem Khou Phing. Should I buy these bearings or attempt to make my own? Just some questions that I had. Thanks!

The pigtail bearing supports the prop at two locations, front and rear of the shaft, through thin aluminum, for low friction. The Ikara type hanger has a button with a longer hole, which MAY lead to more friction. The pigtail may be slightly lighter, but on SO that is not a bog deal. The Ikara requires the little button, which becomes locked into the propshaft once bent to shape.

The pigtail prop is installed by feeding the propshaft, hook first, through the front aluminum hole. Once it is fed all the way through (tortuous path), then align the rear angled portion of the propshaft (immediately in front of the rubber hook) with the opening in the rear of the pigtail, and it drops right in, sometimes with a slight click.

These are simple and do not require a new button for each prop.

You can also make your own wire pigtail, but for the price the aluminum ones are hard to beat. Be sure to get one designed for SO. One for LPP, F1D, and other classes may be too light, bending under our heavy rubber, and may not be tall enough for our generous rubber hooks.

Coach Chuck

How does the prop shaft get supported at the pigtail? Is there a slot for it in the middle of the two tails?