Experimental Design B/C
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Re: Experimental Design B/C
i got 1st place in the B division for this event, and i really dont know how.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C
It's quite honestly nuts that they would use nuts in this event.
That's putting some teams at an unfair advantage over teams with people with allergies. And while it sounds like a cool experiment, making the experiment fun should come second to safety.
That's putting some teams at an unfair advantage over teams with people with allergies. And while it sounds like a cool experiment, making the experiment fun should come second to safety.
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It was a horrible decision on their part, having peanuts in an experiment should not even be THOUGHT of. There is bound to be SOMEONE who is allergic.rfscoach wrote:It was one of our Fulton Science students who had to leave. We coaches and parents were livid when we found out. His parents take so many precautions to keep him safe and then the one place that you wouldn't think would be a danger he is confronted with peanuts. He had to go into another room while our other 2 students did the experiment, then they were sent into the room he was in to do the write up, never mind that they still could have had peanut residue on their clothes... incredibly, amazing stupid, thoughtless, careless and dangerous. And no mention by the event supervisor that they would be using nuts at the coaches meeting the night before.eyeball138 wrote:We wound up getting 17th, which is fine, but I have to say that that test was not good. They gave us a jar of iodine and 5 snack foods, and we watched the snack foods change color. On paper this sounds ok, but it was not. They gave us peanuts as a snack food, and one person who had an allergy was forced to leave. I just don't understand how nuts could be used ever in this event,especially at nationals.
I also heard that this student was the one who was in charge of the observations, which did not help. The experiment was VERY unfair. I don't believe an arbitrary was made?
I felt horrible.
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Ya, I don't believe the complaint ever got filed. It totally got lost in the shuffle especially since shortly after that one of our other students broke his arm and needed emergency care and we had to find replacements for his events....tclme elmo wrote:It was a horrible decision on their part, having peanuts in an experiment should not even be THOUGHT of. There is bound to be SOMEONE who is allergic.rfscoach wrote:It was one of our Fulton Science students who had to leave. We coaches and parents were livid when we found out. His parents take so many precautions to keep him safe and then the one place that you wouldn't think would be a danger he is confronted with peanuts. He had to go into another room while our other 2 students did the experiment, then they were sent into the room he was in to do the write up, never mind that they still could have had peanut residue on their clothes... incredibly, amazing stupid, thoughtless, careless and dangerous. And no mention by the event supervisor that they would be using nuts at the coaches meeting the night before.eyeball138 wrote:We wound up getting 17th, which is fine, but I have to say that that test was not good. They gave us a jar of iodine and 5 snack foods, and we watched the snack foods change color. On paper this sounds ok, but it was not. They gave us peanuts as a snack food, and one person who had an allergy was forced to leave. I just don't understand how nuts could be used ever in this event,especially at nationals.
I also heard that this student was the one who was in charge of the observations, which did not help. The experiment was VERY unfair. I don't believe an arbitrary was made?
I felt horrible.
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Ouch! That stinks! I'm so sorry!rfscoach wrote:Ya, I don't believe the complaint ever got filed. It totally got lost in the shuffle especially since shortly after that one of our other students broke his arm and needed emergency care and we had to find replacements for his events....tclme elmo wrote:It was a horrible decision on their part, having peanuts in an experiment should not even be THOUGHT of. There is bound to be SOMEONE who is allergic.rfscoach wrote:It was one of our Fulton Science students who had to leave. We coaches and parents were livid when we found out. His parents take so many precautions to keep him safe and then the one place that you wouldn't think would be a danger he is confronted with peanuts. He had to go into another room while our other 2 students did the experiment, then they were sent into the room he was in to do the write up, never mind that they still could have had peanut residue on their clothes... incredibly, amazing stupid, thoughtless, careless and dangerous. And no mention by the event supervisor that they would be using nuts at the coaches meeting the night before.
I also heard that this student was the one who was in charge of the observations, which did not help. The experiment was VERY unfair. I don't believe an arbitrary was made?
I felt horrible.
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Solon Invitational - 8th
Regionals - 1st
States - 1st
Nationals - 11th
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Solon Invitational - 8th
Regionals - 1st
States - 1st
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That's just bad luck. Some things you just can't control. Better luck next year.
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oh I got 18th, just behind youeyeball138 wrote:We wound up getting 17th, which is fine, but I have to say that that test was not good. They gave us a jar of iodine and 5 snack foods, and we watched the snack foods change color. On paper this sounds ok, but it was not. They gave us peanuts as a snack food, and one person who had an allergy was forced to leave. I just don't understand how nuts could be used ever in this event,especially at nationals.

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Wow, nuts? This wasn't a regional competition, it's the national tournament...and don't they have coach meetings the day before to see how all the events are being run?
Either way, that's completely preposterous, those supervisors should be ashamed...those kids practice so much for this and look forward to competing at nats...seriously, how can they make a mistake like this...nut allergies aren't exactly 1 in a million, and im pretty sure they plan events weeks or even months in advance...they had plenty of time to work out the kinks.
Either way, that's completely preposterous, those supervisors should be ashamed...those kids practice so much for this and look forward to competing at nats...seriously, how can they make a mistake like this...nut allergies aren't exactly 1 in a million, and im pretty sure they plan events weeks or even months in advance...they had plenty of time to work out the kinks.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C
Last year's B Division Experimental event was poorly run, too, but not on anywhere near so dangerous a scale (although I heard that last year's big issue- that is, shortage of paper- was repeated this year, as well).lllazar wrote:Wow, nuts? This wasn't a regional competition, it's the national tournament...and don't they have coach meetings the day before to see how all the events are being run?
Either way, that's completely preposterous, those supervisors should be ashamed...those kids practice so much for this and look forward to competing at nats...seriously, how can they make a mistake like this...nut allergies aren't exactly 1 in a million, and im pretty sure they plan events weeks or even months in advance...they had plenty of time to work out the kinks.
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Shortage of paper? This is a national tournament! There are scholarships on the line! These events MUST be better run.
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