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The first problem is this Try the second question.
Simple Machines B/Compound Machines C
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...yesUnome wrote:Wait... shouldn'tplaid suit guy2 wrote:You sure?
The first problem is this Try the second question.be 10N?
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Soplaid suit guy2 wrote:...yesUnome wrote:Wait... shouldn'tplaid suit guy2 wrote:You sure?
The first problem is this Try the second question.be 10N?
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Re: Simple Machines B/Compound Machines C
It't just ends up as 27.84N (exactly as written on the piece of paper I wrote the solution on last night at like 10:30. Tired me is better as physics, as it turns out
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done correctly

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Re: Simple Machines B/Compound Machines C
Ohh... I just made a math error, subsequently fixed it to figure out how to solve the problem, then remade the same error while actually calculating the answer...plaid suit guy2 wrote:It't just ends up as 27.84N (exactly as written on the piece of paper I wrote the solution on last night at like 10:30. Tired me is better as physics, as it turns out)
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I did too, so it's all good. Oh, also,
This is an incorrect answer. The weight doesn't increase with the distance, the torques do, but there is a mathematical shorthand: you can assume all of the mass is at the center of mass of the beam, its halfway point.UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Now I get it. I forgot theplaid suit guy2 wrote:You sure?
The first problem is this Try the second question.part...
except... shouldn't the weight of the lever arm increase as the arm goes further away from the fulcrum?4 kg
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Re: Simple Machines B/Compound Machines C
Yeah, I meant the torque.plaid suit guy2 wrote:I did too, so it's all good. Oh, also,This is an incorrect answer. The weight doesn't increase with the distance, the torques do, but there is a mathematical shorthand: you can assume all of the mass is at the center of mass of the beam, its halfway point.UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Now I get it. I forgot theplaid suit guy2 wrote:You sure?
The first problem is this Try the second question.part...
except... shouldn't the weight of the lever arm increase as the arm goes further away from the fulcrum?4 kg

I tried doing that, but the lever arm itself ended up having more torque then both the other arm and the weight together, so...
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yes, it doesUTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Yeah, I meant the torque.plaid suit guy2 wrote:I did too, so it's all good. Oh, also,This is an incorrect answer. The weight doesn't increase with the distance, the torques do, but there is a mathematical shorthand: you can assume all of the mass is at the center of mass of the beam, its halfway point.UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote: Now I get it. I forgot thepart...
except... shouldn't the weight of the lever arm increase as the arm goes further away from the fulcrum?4 kg![]()
I tried doing that, but the lever arm itself ended up having more torque then both the other arm and the weight together, so...
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Re: Simple Machines B/Compound Machines C
Then the load has to have negative weight...plaid suit guy2 wrote:yes, it doesUTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Yeah, I meant the torque.plaid suit guy2 wrote: This is an incorrect answer. The weight doesn't increase with the distance, the torques do, but there is a mathematical shorthand: you can assume all of the mass is at the center of mass of the beam, its halfway point.![]()
I tried doing that, but the lever arm itself ended up having more torque then both the other arm and the weight together, so...
I just figured you did something wrong, so I just did the question wrong...
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Re: Simple Machines B/Compound Machines C
[math](10 m)(20/25*20 kg) + (15 m)(x kg) = (5 m)(15 kg) + (2.5 m)(4 kg)[/math] [math]x=5kg[/math] Definitely negative