Codebusters C
- Adi1008
- Moderator
- Posts: 525
- Joined: December 6th, 2013, 1:56 pm
- Division: Grad
- State: CA
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 155 times
- Been thanked: 107 times
Codebusters C
Codebusters C: Teams will cryptanalze (decode) encrypted messages using cryptanalysis techniques and show skill with advanced ciphers by encrypting or decrypting a message.
Codebusters Wiki
Codebusters Test Exchange 2018
Past Threads: 2018 (Trial), 2019
Past Question Marathons: 2019
Codebusters Wiki
Codebusters Test Exchange 2018
Past Threads: 2018 (Trial), 2019
Past Question Marathons: 2019
Stanford University
University of Texas at Austin '22
Seven Lakes High School '18
Beckendorff Junior High '14
University of Texas at Austin '22
Seven Lakes High School '18
Beckendorff Junior High '14
- jimmy-bond
- Member
- Posts: 418
- Joined: January 8th, 2018, 11:25 pm
- Division: Grad
- State: OH
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 11 times
- Been thanked: 10 times
Re: Codebusters C
No more easy points for decryption matrices 

PCHS, HI '21 | CWRU, OH '25
Code(16), DD(40), FQ(39),4&6(36), WQ(27)
CriB(26), DP (11), FF(1), MM(14), P&P(6)
CriB(36), DD(35), FF(2), MM(20)
-
- Member
- Posts: 62
- Joined: September 2nd, 2019, 8:17 pm
- Division: C
- State: IN
- Has thanked: 75 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Codebusters C
For the baconian cipher is does it follow the 26 letter alphabet or the 24 letter alphabet (i/j and u/v are the same) or both?
8th grade events: Mission Possible and Hovercraft.
High School: Codebusters, Designer genes, Gravity Vehicle, Mission Possible, Machines, Ping Pong Parachute, Boomilever, Protein Modeling.
It's been a heck of a ride, vortexx out.
High School: Codebusters, Designer genes, Gravity Vehicle, Mission Possible, Machines, Ping Pong Parachute, Boomilever, Protein Modeling.
It's been a heck of a ride, vortexx out.
-
- Member
- Posts: 91
- Joined: February 18th, 2019, 7:43 am
- Division: C
- State: OH
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 30 times
Re: Codebusters C
At every competition I've been to it's been i/j u/v
Mason ‘22
2021 Nats:
Chem - 1
Code - 5
SOM - 2
Boomi - 2
2019 Nats:
Code - 4
Mission - 4
Check out will0416's Userpage
2021 Nats:
Chem - 1
Code - 5
SOM - 2
Boomi - 2
2019 Nats:
Code - 4
Mission - 4
Check out will0416's Userpage
- Umaroth
- Exalted Member
- Posts: 396
- Joined: February 10th, 2018, 8:51 pm
- Division: C
- State: CA
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 167 times
- Been thanked: 325 times
Re: Codebusters C
Last year's rules clarifications specified the 24 letter alphabetVortexx2 wrote: For the baconian cipher is does it follow the 26 letter alphabet or the 24 letter alphabet (i/j and u/v are the same) or both?
Cal 2026
Troy SciOly 2021 Co-Captain
Proud Padre of the Evola SciOly Program 2018-now
Dank Memes Area Homeschool Juggernaut 2018-now
Sierra Vista SciOly Co-Head Coach 2020-now
Umaroth's Userpage
Troy SciOly 2021 Co-Captain
Proud Padre of the Evola SciOly Program 2018-now
Dank Memes Area Homeschool Juggernaut 2018-now
Sierra Vista SciOly Co-Head Coach 2020-now
Umaroth's Userpage
-
- Coach
- Posts: 422
- Joined: May 19th, 2017, 10:55 am
- Division: Grad
- State: OH
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 22 times
Re: Codebusters C
Then I guess somebody better tee up a new FAQ :p
Assistant Coach and Alumnus ('14) - Solon High School Science Olympiad
Tournament Director - Northeast Ohio Regional Tournament
Tournament Director - Solon High School Science Olympiad Invitational
Opinions expressed on this site are not official; the only place for official rules changes and FAQs is soinc.org.
Tournament Director - Northeast Ohio Regional Tournament
Tournament Director - Solon High School Science Olympiad Invitational
Opinions expressed on this site are not official; the only place for official rules changes and FAQs is soinc.org.
-
- Admin Emeritus
- Posts: 1115
- Joined: May 10th, 2011, 8:25 pm
- Division: Grad
- State: TX
- Has thanked: 0
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Codebusters C
Looking for opinions here, I'm curious what everyone else thinks of the rules. I've always wished they'd lean more towards the cryptography/math intensive problems and shy away from the monoalphabetic tasks (I see them as more repetitive, less thought provoking). Each year so far the rules have moved away from what I'd like though, so I'd love to hear other thoughts on it.
Additionally, wondering what people have seen in regards to the RSA cipher on the higher level exams. I've seen one test that asked for cryptanalysis of RSA based on a weak selection of factors, but nothing else.
Additionally, wondering what people have seen in regards to the RSA cipher on the higher level exams. I've seen one test that asked for cryptanalysis of RSA based on a weak selection of factors, but nothing else.
'If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room' - Unknown
- Umaroth
- Exalted Member
- Posts: 396
- Joined: February 10th, 2018, 8:51 pm
- Division: C
- State: CA
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 167 times
- Been thanked: 325 times
Re: Codebusters C
Most of what I've seen of RSA is computation problems with numbers that are far too long to fit into a 4/5-function calculatoriwonder wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2019, 10:01 pm Looking for opinions here, I'm curious what everyone else thinks of the rules. I've always wished they'd lean more towards the cryptography/math intensive problems and shy away from the monoalphabetic tasks (I see them as more repetitive, less thought provoking). Each year so far the rules have moved away from what I'd like though, so I'd love to hear other thoughts on it.
Additionally, wondering what people have seen in regards to the RSA cipher on the higher level exams. I've seen one test that asked for cryptanalysis of RSA based on a weak selection of factors, but nothing else.
Cal 2026
Troy SciOly 2021 Co-Captain
Proud Padre of the Evola SciOly Program 2018-now
Dank Memes Area Homeschool Juggernaut 2018-now
Sierra Vista SciOly Co-Head Coach 2020-now
Umaroth's Userpage
Troy SciOly 2021 Co-Captain
Proud Padre of the Evola SciOly Program 2018-now
Dank Memes Area Homeschool Juggernaut 2018-now
Sierra Vista SciOly Co-Head Coach 2020-now
Umaroth's Userpage
- Longivitis
- Member
- Posts: 47
- Joined: February 17th, 2018, 7:19 am
- Division: Grad
- State: TX
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 17 times
- Been thanked: 45 times
- Contact:
Re: Codebusters C
I like the way that they are going this year with less encryption questions to avoid teams gaining "easy" points. The addition of the pollux and morbit ciphers is good to increase the variety of ciphers (at least it's not as easy as memorizing morse code, although they do give you a table).
Given the variety of aristocrats/patristocrats, I still think teams should study them the most because the other ciphers are simply memorization or pure math.
Hopefully all of the tests use toebes because their formatting is easier to read and create and showing the letter frequencies are nice (looking at you Clements at Cy Falls and UT).
Given the variety of aristocrats/patristocrats, I still think teams should study them the most because the other ciphers are simply memorization or pure math.
Hopefully all of the tests use toebes because their formatting is easier to read and create and showing the letter frequencies are nice (looking at you Clements at Cy Falls and UT).
University of Texas at Austin '23
Cypress Lakes High School '19
Chemistry Lab, Codebusters, Game On, Science Word, Towers, We've Got Your Number
Cypress Lakes High School '19
Chemistry Lab, Codebusters, Game On, Science Word, Towers, We've Got Your Number
- pepperonipi
- Moderator
- Posts: 205
- Joined: January 21st, 2019, 11:38 am
- Division: C
- State: FL
- Pronouns: She/Her/Hers
- Has thanked: 174 times
- Been thanked: 336 times
Re: Codebusters C
I agree - I wish there were less of an emphasis on the monoalphabetics. All it does is encourage more memorization when this event could have a much greater focus on being able to effectively encrypt/decrypt a variety of cipher types relatively quickly using advanced techniques, such as matrices and modular arithmetic (a good example of this is RSA or the Hill Cipher).iwonder wrote: ↑September 3rd, 2019, 10:01 pm Looking for opinions here, I'm curious what everyone else thinks of the rules. I've always wished they'd lean more towards the cryptography/math intensive problems and shy away from the monoalphabetic tasks (I see them as more repetitive, less thought provoking). Each year so far the rules have moved away from what I'd like though, so I'd love to hear other thoughts on it.
happy new season!
University of Florida
My Wiki Page | WikiProject SciOly and Scioly.org | Pi-Bot
2019: Code, Fermi, Thermo
2020: Detector, Orni, Code (Substitution: Penn)
2021: Detector, Orni, Circuit, WICI
University of Florida
My Wiki Page | WikiProject SciOly and Scioly.org | Pi-Bot
2019: Code, Fermi, Thermo
2020: Detector, Orni, Code (Substitution: Penn)
2021: Detector, Orni, Circuit, WICI
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests