High IMA Pulley Task
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High IMA Pulley Task
See rule 4.b.vii for details.
The IMA must be at least 7, so that will require a significant number of pulleys. Pushing a switch with the rising weight seems like the simplest way to trigger the next action, as long as you can control the ascent path of the weight (a tube?).
The IMA must be at least 7, so that will require a significant number of pulleys. Pushing a switch with the rising weight seems like the simplest way to trigger the next action, as long as you can control the ascent path of the weight (a tube?).
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
It'll require some pulleys, yes, but as long as you just do 4 wheels on top fixed in place and 3 wheels on bottom fixed together, it's a pretty manageable system. That is if I remember my simple machines right which is a big if.
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
That's not quite how I remember it. I believe it is the number of movable pulleys * 2. IE, you would have four on top and bottom, the four on the bottom moving to get an IMA of 8. To get to exactly 7, I guess one would remove the last pulley on the top and be pulling up rather than down.Tesel wrote:It'll require some pulleys, yes, but as long as you just do 4 wheels on top fixed in place and 3 wheels on bottom fixed together, it's a pretty manageable system. That is if I remember my simple machines right which is a big if.
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
This is what you want, with the pulleys separated out. Just use this number of pulleys, and arrange them similar to this diagram.
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1AjO ... sp=sharing
Here is a link to a google drawing I made of what (90% sure) a 7 IMA pulley system can look like.
Here is a link to a google drawing I made of what (90% sure) a 7 IMA pulley system can look like.
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
I can probably chip in the other 10%, that looks right to me.ScottMaurer19 wrote:https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1AjO ... sp=sharing
Here is a link to a google drawing I made of what (90% sure) a 7 IMA pulley system can look like.
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
I should have explained that better... it's all about the number of ropes supporting the load. Unome did a great drawing - since there's 7 ropes supporting the load, there's an IMA of 7, which is what I was getting at.RJohnson wrote:That's not quite how I remember it. I believe it is the number of movable pulleys * 2. IE, you would have four on top and bottom, the four on the bottom moving to get an IMA of 8. To get to exactly 7, I guess one would remove the last pulley on the top and be pulling up rather than down.Tesel wrote:It'll require some pulleys, yes, but as long as you just do 4 wheels on top fixed in place and 3 wheels on bottom fixed together, it's a pretty manageable system. That is if I remember my simple machines right which is a big if.
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
There is a pulley system I remember from Compound Machines that use few pulleys to get an arbitrarily high IMA: Differential Pulley. I did a description in the scioly wiki Compound Machine page.
There are a few drawbacks though: it is harder to build, requiring the wheel and axle-like structure. Additionally, the supervisor may not familiar with the setup and does not see how it can have IMA>=7. The benefit is the low number of pulleys used!
There are a few drawbacks though: it is harder to build, requiring the wheel and axle-like structure. Additionally, the supervisor may not familiar with the setup and does not see how it can have IMA>=7. The benefit is the low number of pulleys used!
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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
It's an interesting idea. However, it would also be a little harder to implement due to the difficulty of pulling on it, whereas with a regular pulley you just drop an object 70 cm to pull the weight up 10 cm.raxu wrote:There is a pulley system I remember from Compound Machines that use few pulleys to get an arbitrarily high IMA: Differential Pulley. I did a description in the scioly wiki Compound Machine page.
There are a few drawbacks though: it is harder to build, requiring the wheel and axle-like structure. Additionally, the supervisor may not familiar with the setup and does not see how it can have IMA>=7. The benefit is the low number of pulleys used!
Edit: Nevermind, that's not possible. The dropped object would definitely have to roll down a ramp or something, since the device's maximum height is 60 cm.
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