Anatomy & Physiology B/C

[Unome]

Well, for Divison B last year, we had a test.

Judging by the quality of the test, I'm pretty sure they'll have replaced that ES (Div C has a new event supervisor, so you might be getting the previous Div C event supervisors).

Are you talking about the Div. B test? If so, I hope that the new supervisor has a test, because I suck at stations .

Yes, I was in Div B last year.

[MathemagicalWasp]

For skeletal national level, they say spinal fractures, are they just referring to compression fractures? Because I thought that was included in the "fractures" section of regional/state level comp.

Yes many of the vertebral fractures are compression fractures, but be sure to check out the detailed fractures, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_fracture.
I have no idea if the event supervisors will be so detailed as to place very detailed identification questions.

[sciolyFTW_aku]

For skeletal national level, they say spinal fractures, are they just referring to compression fractures? Because I thought that was included in the "fractures" section of regional/state level comp.

Yes many of the vertebral fractures are compression fractures, but be sure to check out the detailed fractures, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_fracture.
I have no idea if the event supervisors will be so detailed as to place very detailed identification questions.

If the ES asks a question about Holdsworth fractures, RIP

EDIT: BTW, I mean that it's going to be really hard, and no one (incld. me) will know what it is (I hope )

[Sciencegeekgirl]

AHHHHH!!!! I'm currently freaking about Nats (First time going).

Anywho, I have a few questions which would be awesome if somebody could answer them.
1. So is it a 50/50 chance on whether it is stations or test? (Division B)
2. For x. in Skeletal System, how in depth do they want us to go? Does it just stop at labeling the bone and knowing the foraminas, or should we know the crests, and every little tiny detail about each skull bone?
3. Follow up question, does anybody have a list of the foraminas that we need to know and what passes through them?
4. Does anybody have any National Level Difficulty Test, my partner and I could take? I want to see how difficult the test is.

Please help! Thanks in advance.

[Pupitre]

Hey guys! I have a couple questions for those of you from more competitive states that are attending nationals this year. I've been attending for the past few years, but Rhode Island's scene is pretty pathetic so we don't get access to any competitions other than states to know what to expect at the national level.

1. For fractures, is it worth memorizing classification more in-depth than comminuted, greenstick, compression, oblique, etc, and Salter-Harris? Stuff like Boxer's, Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's fractures. Is that stuff even relevant enough to make it on the notes sheet?
2. Anyone who took last year's Div. C nationals test, how many minutes per station? Any strategies you guys have for test-taking in stations? What about just a pure test that's ridiculously long?
3. The big one here... For anyone who took last year's test (either B or C), do the national event supervisors actually stick to the rules or not? I've heard that there were some pretty specific questions like "name 5 types of Psoriasis" and stuff like that, so I hope they have at least stuck to the rules for topic choice in the past?

Thanks.

[alexamezaga1]

Hey guys! I have a couple questions for those of you from more competitive states that are attending nationals this year. I've been attending for the past few years, but Rhode Island's scene is pretty pathetic so we don't get access to any competitions other than states to know what to expect at the national level.

1. For fractures, is it worth memorizing classification more in-depth than comminuted, greenstick, compression, oblique, etc, and Salter-Harris? Stuff like Boxer's, Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's fractures. Is that stuff even relevant enough to make it on the notes sheet?
2. Anyone who took last year's Div. C nationals test, how many minutes per station? Any strategies you guys have for test-taking in stations? What about just a pure test that's ridiculously long?
3. The big one here... For anyone who took last year's test (either B or C), do the national event supervisors actually stick to the rules or not? I've heard that there were some pretty specific questions like "name 5 types of Psoriasis" and stuff like that, so I hope they have at least stuck to the rules for topic choice in the past?

Thanks.

1. I would say you should definitely know the ones normal ones you mentioned, for the others (Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's, etc.) I don't think it's necessary however I have it on my cheat sheet anyways, because like you said, last year they asked for something pretty specific.
2. Don't recall station timing. If it is a stationed test, just have your partner start at one end and you start at the other, and meet in the middle, if you have time at a station to go over your partners test then of course do so. If it is a long test just split it up and get to work.
3. The best part about nationals is how well they adhere to the rules.. Even though they might ask about stuff not specifically stated on the rules, I'm sure those questions can stem off of a topic that is mentioned in the rules; that's really the point of nationals, to see who really knows their stuff and goes above and beyond to place.

[sciolyFTW_aku]

Hey guys! I have a couple questions for those of you from more competitive states that are attending nationals this year. I've been attending for the past few years, but Rhode Island's scene is pretty pathetic so we don't get access to any competitions other than states to know what to expect at the national level.

1. For fractures, is it worth memorizing classification more in-depth than comminuted, greenstick, compression, oblique, etc, and Salter-Harris? Stuff like Boxer's, Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's fractures. Is that stuff even relevant enough to make it on the notes sheet?
2. Anyone who took last year's Div. C nationals test, how many minutes per station? Any strategies you guys have for test-taking in stations? What about just a pure test that's ridiculously long?
3. The big one here... For anyone who took last year's test (either B or C), do the national event supervisors actually stick to the rules or not? I've heard that there were some pretty specific questions like "name 5 types of Psoriasis" and stuff like that, so I hope they have at least stuck to the rules for topic choice in the past?

Thanks.

1. I would say you should definitely know the ones normal ones you mentioned, for the others (Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's, etc.) I don't think it's necessary however I have it on my cheat sheet anyways, because like you said, last year they asked for something pretty specific.
2. Don't recall station timing. If it is a stationed test, just have your partner start at one end and you start at the other, and meet in the middle, if you have time at a station to go over your partners test then of course do so. If it is a long test just split it up and get to work.
3. The best part about nationals is how well they adhere to the rules.. Even though they might ask about stuff not specifically stated on the rules, I'm sure those questions can stem off of a topic that is mentioned in the rules; that's really the point of nationals, to see who really knows their stuff and goes above and beyond to place.

In reference to question number two, if your partner an you split up the test, I would recommend this strategy: Have the person who is strongest at his/her system (let's say, for example, Skeletal) start on the Integ portion of the test. You can start with the Muscular system.

Also, I agree with @alex for question number 3. The "5 types of psoriasis" question wasn't off topic; it was just a very detailed question about psoriasis. For the obscure types of fractures, I would have them on my ref sheet, just in case

[Unome]

The best part about nationals is how well they adhere to the rules.

Anatomy 2015 Div B

But you guys have a different event supervisor this year, so it should be better.

[Pupitre]

Hey guys! I have a couple questions for those of you from more competitive states that are attending nationals this year. I've been attending for the past few years, but Rhode Island's scene is pretty pathetic so we don't get access to any competitions other than states to know what to expect at the national level.

1. For fractures, is it worth memorizing classification more in-depth than comminuted, greenstick, compression, oblique, etc, and Salter-Harris? Stuff like Boxer's, Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's fractures. Is that stuff even relevant enough to make it on the notes sheet?
2. Anyone who took last year's Div. C nationals test, how many minutes per station? Any strategies you guys have for test-taking in stations? What about just a pure test that's ridiculously long?
3. The big one here... For anyone who took last year's test (either B or C), do the national event supervisors actually stick to the rules or not? I've heard that there were some pretty specific questions like "name 5 types of Psoriasis" and stuff like that, so I hope they have at least stuck to the rules for topic choice in the past?

Thanks.

1. I would say you should definitely know the ones normal ones you mentioned, for the others (Pott's, Bennett's, Duverney's, etc.) I don't think it's necessary however I have it on my cheat sheet anyways, because like you said, last year they asked for something pretty specific.
2. Don't recall station timing. If it is a stationed test, just have your partner start at one end and you start at the other, and meet in the middle, if you have time at a station to go over your partners test then of course do so. If it is a long test just split it up and get to work.
3. The best part about nationals is how well they adhere to the rules.. Even though they might ask about stuff not specifically stated on the rules, I'm sure those questions can stem off of a topic that is mentioned in the rules; that's really the point of nationals, to see who really knows their stuff and goes above and beyond to place.

In reference to question number two, if your partner an you split up the test, I would recommend this strategy: Have the person who is strongest at his/her system (let's say, for example, Skeletal) start on the Integ portion of the test. You can start with the Muscular system.

Also, I agree with @alex for question number 3. The "5 types of psoriasis" question wasn't off topic; it was just a very detailed question about psoriasis. For the obscure types of fractures, I would have them on my ref sheet, just in case

Yeah sorry for my lack of clarity, I wasn't suggesting that 5 types of Psoriasis was off topic, just that if they are going to be that specific, I'd hope that they would at least be specific about points described or closely related to the rules sheet. But thank you for the response it was very helpful! How are you guys managing your studying how that you've gotten all of the bases covered and presumably just have ridiculously in depth information to memorize?

[alexamezaga1]

I have a question about classes of muscle fibers: I have seen both type IIb and type IIx muscle fibers from different sources, but no sources include both. Are these just different names for the same thing?